The round pan below is a propane pan with electronic ignition. This is a 36" aluminum pan with a 2" lip all around
Above you can see the soot that come out of the fireplace and and leaves your house smelling so carbon monoxide fresh! YUCK!
Add a bit of lime stone.
A few pieces of copper.
Below you can see the sand bed and the ignition box we built.
Below are the two vent we installed for the air mixers inside of the ignition systems.
and here we are finished. Now isn't that much better litter feller?
The burner below is one of our FPPK's (fire pit propane kit). With this FPPK we set it up for Black Magic! This was table tested for the pictures. Hopefully the customer will send us pictures after and during installation. We first sent these pictures for the customers approval. Here you go! The pan below belongs to Scott Spector and he finally installed the fire pit in his back yard, WOW, one really nice backyard!
This is one of our propane pan burner with slight modifications.
As you can see around the lower edges it was leaking and yes we did fix this.
The fire pit below was built by Scott Spector in Florida. He started with an FPPK 30 which includes a 30" base plate and a double 24" stainless steel ring. Here we go from the beginning: (See Our General Propane Information Sheet)
The propane line was run/ installed under the pavers.
The colors that were used are
1/2" Clear Base Glass,
Black Magic in the center,
Cobalt Blue Topper,
Cobalt Blue Light Topper
and our FPPK 30". That is our 30" propane burner. You can see the actual burner above burning before shipment and installation.
We don't have any pictures of the fire pit burning at Scott's but he did tel us that when he fired it up again he would try to send us a few pictures. Thanks Scott.
The fire table below was built by Christina "Stina" in the San Francisco area. With a little ambition, imagination and our help, she now has one very nice fire table.
Here is where it started. She made a template of the pan and where the mounting tabs would be located. Then we built the aluminum pan and propane burner for Stina to install.
Below is how the teak table started. We just brought it into the future.
Below the pan was installed with Galaxy Green Base Glass.
Below you can see the top installed and what a difference.
Below is her wonderfully finished project, Great job Stina!
The fire pit below was purchased locally and then we converted it to burn propane without soot! The colors used were:
Starfire Base Glass, Water White Base Glass,
Here is what is looked like when he started. These manufactures have no imagination!
This only cost about $100.00, complete!
The propane burner conversion below was performed by Richard King of South Carolina.
Richard has one very cool Super Bowl party room! We assisted him in converting a propane fire pit one very nice clean burning fire pit. We will explain as we move along.
Richard: You did a beautiful job on your gazebo!
Here is the fire pit turned up so you can see that we installed one of our FPPK (fire pit propane kit) The tank was under the deck.
Richard may of had a few flex lines that were a bit too long.
It's supposed to look simple when it's finished.
The controls were adapted to his and over his old controls.
Above is on low and I might add no black soot or smoke! You would think the manufactures of these tables would of figured it out by now?
Below is the standard ring but we installed thermocouple and safety pilot kit.
Below is what were sent to convert. Small flames and no air mixer what so ever. Just a lot of soot and black smoke, seen it before?
Below, not a lot of flame is there? The reason is once they turn it up for you, the soot starts to show. So they tell you it can't be turned up.
Now we step in, air mixed calibrated to the ring and valve system and pilot light and thermocouple in place.
and turbo high and still with a clean burn!
and below is the 2009 Super Bowl Party! Thanks Richard!
Yes, we can convert anything!
The wine barrel below was build by one of our newer dealers in Texas. Matt's Custom Welding. Contact us for information about Matt's wonderful work. We are going to be much more of Matt's work and look around his showroom in the pictures below. Many more projects to come.
There was a steel bowl installed using our propane system to burn our glass. They used Bronze Base Glass in the fire pit.
Below you will see how simple it is to convert/ install a propane into your table:
This is our FPPK box with controls and air mixer calibrated to the burner we are using
A better view
The burner on the top side with the thermocouple, pilot light and battery operated ignitor exposed
Pour the filler/ lava/ glass? and drink beer! Put a fork in it, You're done!
Propane Burner Issues
I have seen this scenario all too often. The supplier that you have purchased from only cared about making the sale of the glass. They did not ask what you were doing. How you were doing it. What you were working on, etc. etc. etc. They did not ask if you had propane or natural gas or if you had natural gas close by to use opposed to propane. You are now finding out that there is no customer support after the sale. We are the only manufacturer building one propane burner at a time to suit your needs. We care from beginning to end and more importantly after the fact! We offer customer support FOREVER!
Let me tell you how we feel about these other companies selling products they know nothing about:
You purchased a Ford and now you are going to the Cadillac dealer for advice and parts on how to fix the problems. That is not how it works. We need you to put pressure on the company that sold you the product that does not perform as you thought it should. We will and or can resolve your issues, but you need to make sure these companies stop selling products they know nothing about.
Have you contacted the company that you purchased from?
Have you received any advice from this company on how to resolve the issue?
Are they even concerned about your problems?
Did you disclose to this company what you were working on?
Did this company ask for details about your project?
Have you asked if you can return all of the parts and products because of product failure?
Does this company even have any information on line about their success on propane burners?
Did you receive any customer support?
Does the company you purchased from even have a physical address where you can visit?
We do genuinely feel bad for the customer being taken advantage of by companies such as these, selling parts and supplies, which they know nothing about.
Please keep us posted on your developments so we may continue to remedy your situation. We are proud of our creations, inventions, customer support, product lines as we do all of this for you, the customer!
This would be step one. Then we would step in and fix your issues.
Ed Jaunzemis President, Moderustic Inc
Here is the answer some of you think you know. (You don't!) These are Air Mixers, Venturis Carburetors.
These like a carburetor on any engine act as the air fuel mixture governor. Have you ever been behind an older car that smells funny? Wrong air mixture! Bad mechanic! The air mixers have to be calibrated not only to the valving but the burner as well. We have been building propane burners for several years now and we have never had an issue with any configuration that we have built, ever. It's the same as porting an engine for proper air flow. If you just STICK one of these on your burner then you may be giving us a call soon enough.
Here are a few pictures of the 1/2" and 3/4" air mixers, (40,000 to 400,000 btu mixers).
If you attach it and create back pressure, you will have a fire or an explosion, guaranteed. We are not trying to frighten you but to make you aware. We believe in safety first and we don't build systems without thermocouple and or pilot light systems, ever!
As you may have of seen on our "How Not To Do It Page" they still screw up no matter how hard they try. We are here only to help!
If you are building a fire pit or fire table and did not plan for and where your controls will be located, we have a solution! We can build a Flip Top Box to conceal your controls for propane or natural gas. Here are 8 pictures for your possible project. We can modify these is dozens of ways to fit your fire pit project.
This is just the Copreci Valve and Air Mixer installed in the box. We can build a box to hold the FPPK with auto start as well.
This next fireplace was installed in Mexico by Roy Quick. It turned out amazing. The base glass that was used is:
1/4" Clear White Base Glass
and Scarlett Toppers
accented with Gold Base Glass on top of it all.
The propane pan has a removable front skirt/ cover to conceal the controls.